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Christian Buhtz
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: backup locked files Reply with quote

Is a software available that can backup locked files? It does not matter
on which system it runs.

How is it possible to backup/read locked files? What is the technic
behind it?
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Huss
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: backup locked files Reply with quote

In message <58rq8jF2hds2iU1@mid.individual.net>, Christian Buhtz
<exsudat@gmx.de> writes
Quote:
Is a software available that can backup locked files? It does not
matter on which system it runs.

How is it possible to backup/read locked files? What is the technic
behind it?

Boot up using a disc imaging system that does backups - Acronis is
probably the best example - or boot up using a Windows PE boot disc or
USB drive. On that drive you should already have placed a plug in for
the appropriate disc imaging system, if you want to image the drive.
Acronis do such a plug in, and there are a couple of others. Names like
drive image spring to mind.

Otherwise, from a PE boot drive you can zip the files up, write them to
CD or DVD, delete them, move them to another HD, your wish is the boot
system's command. It is a beautiful thing to have if you like to defeat
the stupidity of windows XP.

Because the boot drive that has target files is not the boot drive, you
can lock them, the OS on it cannot. It's fast asleep.
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Huss

Why so large a cost, having so short a lease, does thou upon your fading
mansion spend?

William Shakespeare
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Christian Buhtz
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: backup locked files Reply with quote

Huss schrieb:
Quote:
Boot up using a disc imaging system

If I boot a backupsoftware there is no OS that can look any files.

I want to backup locked files on a running "normal" system.
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Huss
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: backup locked files Reply with quote

In message <58uimhF2i1dptU1@mid.individual.net>, Christian Buhtz
<exsudat@gmx.de> writes
Quote:
Huss schrieb:
Boot up using a disc imaging system

If I boot a backupsoftware there is no OS that can look any files.

Not sure that I understand you, but a Windows PE disc can look at the
files for sure, and you can generate one by using the free tools from
either of these 2 sites:

http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/cdrom/
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

http://www.ubcd4win.com/

I think that the old DOS UBCD can also do the job, and if you go here:

http://www.ntfs.com/products.htm

You can download a DOS bootable programme, containing readntfs.exe.
Using that only, on an ordinary DOS bootable disc, you can read NTFS
partitions, manipulate files, delete them, and so on. Obviously Windows
cannot lock the files, and so on to your other point:

Quote:
I want to backup locked files on a running "normal" system.

I don't think that Windows will allow you to, that is a part of locking
files, the purpose being to protect the OS. I should have checked, but I
am guessing that you are using a Windows XP/NT variant. In order to look
at files that Windows is locking, I believe you need to unseat it from
its position of power. The only way that I know to do such a thing is to
boot up from an alternative drive, either a bootable DOS or Windows PE
CD-ROM/USB stick, or a DOS bootable floppy.

It is possible, in spite of the things that you will hear, to read NTFS
drives (using readntfs.exe) from a single floppy. I know, I do it often.
Junk the rest of the files, find a free version of DOS, boot up, execute
the NTFS reader and Bob is your Uncle.

Windows locks files with the express purpose of preventing users from
tinkering. Since windows is the OS it is in charge. When it is
running...
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Huss

Why so large a cost, having so short a lease, does thou upon your fading
mansion spend?

William Shakespeare
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Hywel Mallett
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: backup locked files Reply with quote

"Christian Buhtz" <exsudat@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:58rq8jF2hds2iU1@mid.individual.net...
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Is a software available that can backup locked files? It does not matter
on which system it runs.

How is it possible to backup/read locked files? What is the technic behind
it?

Symantec Backup Exec can do this, using the Advanced Open File Option. It
takes a disk snapshot, and backs that up.

--
http://www.backupexecfaq.com
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